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今天早上一手让我很郁闷的牌
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作者:
funnyface
时间:
2011-12-22 11:00
标题:
今天早上一手让我很郁闷的牌
本帖最后由 funnyface 于 2011-12-22 11:01 编辑
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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
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Hero (BTN): $25.00
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SB: $11.73
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BB: $31.05
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UTG: $23.41
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MP: $9.76
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CO: $25.47
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SB posts SB $0.10,
BB
posts BB $0.25
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Pre Flop:
($0.35)
Hero
has K:heart: T:club:
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fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
Hero
raises to $0.75
,
fold
,
BB
calls $0.50
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Flop:
($1.60, 2 players)
7:club: 6:club: 4:heart:
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BB
checks,
Hero
bets $1.50
,
BB
raises to $3.00
,
Hero
calls $1.50
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Turn:
($7.60, 2 players)
A:club:
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BB
checks,
Hero
bets $5.50
,
BB
raises to $11.00
,
Hero
raises to $21.25 and is all-in
,
BB
calls $10.25
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River:
($50.10, 2 players)
8:diamond:
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BB
shows 5:heart: 3:diamond: (Straight, Eight High) (PreFlop 36%, Flop 93%, Turn 80%)
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Hero
mucks K:heart: T:club: (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 64%, Flop 7%, Turn 20%)
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BB
wins $48.10
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我是標準的Cbet,而這個對手在flop上的mini 3b就很奇怪了,一般來講,我覺得只有幾種情況才值的mini 3b,一種是自己是monster,完全不怕對手draw,另一種就是自己是monster draw,還有就是希望用mini 3b讓自己獲得免費牌。而這樣的翻牌我實在想不出什麽牌面值的mini 3b,A5s勉強算,可能還有些帶draw的pocket pair,比如88,55,56,或是67之類,鑒於有位置,而且對手這mini 3b實在是很魚,於是我決定call下,試試看在後面幾條街把他打走。這裡我call 3b,表現出的牌力跟對手差不多,同花draw(很大機會),順子draw(可能性很小),再加上一點點超對。
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轉牌一個A,並且形成了同花牌面,對我算是很不錯的牌,對手過牌,我下了個重注,這時對手又是一個mini 3b。
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本來,如果對手call的話,我就打算放棄了,不過這個mini 3b,我覺得直接暴露了對手牌力,我認為他並不是很強的牌,之前的A5s,兩對,set基本上都排除了,在這種牌面的mini 3b,nuts flush的可能性已經微乎其微,而極可能是天順(這時我還沒把他的牌放在天順上面),或是其他的牌力不錯的成牌,而無論哪種牌,這樣的mini 3b長期來看都是很不明智的選擇,而這裡我就打算繼續扮演小同花的角色,tank了一小會全推回去了。對手猶豫了半天call,亮出35o,最小的天順而且無draw,河牌沒來我要的同花,於是直接輸了這個大pot。
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之後我只能鬱悶的把對手標記為魚,並準備以後再找機會洗了他,不過關於這個牌局,有些問題想跟大家共同探討。
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1、用一手在flop上就已經drawing dead的sec nuts,而且還是在turn已經來了危險牌的情況下打光100BB,應該算是魚吧?
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2、之前類似的牌局,類似的魚類,這幾天我已經經歷了有十多把了,之前我還沒有輸過,這種魚的牌十分容易讀,簡直跟對手亮著牌打一樣。對手不是在turn或是river用drawing dead的牌面call我的AI,就是面對重注退縮,不過之前每次我都有牌,所以這次想試試看單純的semi bluff,可不可以把魚嚇退,或是說,魚是無畏無懼的?
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3、如果我自己持35o,並且在turn上mini 3b,被對手推回來了,這個賠率夠不夠我call的?這個賠率是用10刀贏50刀,所以有20%的勝率才夠call,這種情況下,對手有沒有20%的bulff呢?我覺得沒有,至少我自己在這樣的牌面,bluff的最多也就占5%,如果長期這麼打,應該會死的很慘吧。
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4、之前跟這些魚打牌,很多時候魚會拿到一些看似很強,但是非常不保險的“大牌”,比如說89 at 45667,nuts FD at flop ABB,而我給他們的賠率已經完全不能讓他們call的動了,而這些魚類call這種重注的比例幾乎是100%,某非以後在這樣的牌面我要完全放棄bluff才可以?
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順便再發幾個
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bluff成功的
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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
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MP+1: $28.51
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LP: $41.59
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CO: $20.98
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BTN: $15.48
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SB: $26.19
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Hero (BB): $25.31
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UTG: $23.90
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UTG+1: $12.75
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MP: $7.67
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SB posts SB $0.10,
Hero
posts BB $0.25
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Pre Flop:
($0.35)
Hero
has 8:spade: 7:spade:
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fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
MP+1 raises to $0.88
,
fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
Hero
calls $0.63
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Flop:
($1.86, 2 players)
5:spade: K:spade: 3:club:
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Hero
checks,
MP+1 bets $1.33
,
Hero
calls $1.33
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Turn:
($4.52, 2 players)
6:heart:
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Hero
checks,
MP+1 bets $3.01
,
Hero
calls $3.01
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River:
($10.54, 2 players)
2:club:
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Hero
bets $8.50
,
fold
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Hero
wins $10.03
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魚完全不吃bluff的
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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
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SB: $9.40
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BB: $11.13
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UTG: $11.38
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UTG+1: $12.00
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Hero (MP): $25.89
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MP+1: $10.00
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CO: $8.52
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BTN: $38.59
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SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25,
UTG+1
posts DB $0.25
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Pre Flop:
($0.60)
Hero
has 7:diamond: 7:club:
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fold
,
UTG+1
checks,
Hero
raises to $0.75
,
fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
fold
,
UTG+1
calls $0.50
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Flop:
($1.85, 2 players)
6:club: 5:spade: 3:spade:
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UTG+1
bets $0.50
,
Hero
calls $0.50
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Turn:
($2.85, 2 players)
3:heart:
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UTG+1
checks,
Hero
bets $1.75
,
UTG+1
calls $1.75
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River:
($6.35, 2 players)
7:heart:
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UTG+1
bets $3.50
,
Hero
raises to $16.54
,
UTG+1
calls $5.50 and is all-in
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Hero
shows 7:diamond: 7:club: (Full House, Sevens full of Threes) (PreFlop 51%, Flop 46%, Turn 68%)
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UTG+1
mucks 9:spade: 8:spade: (Straight, Nine High) (PreFlop 49%, Flop 54%, Turn 32%)
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Hero
wins $23.15
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作者:
funnyface
时间:
2011-12-22 11:01
本帖最后由 funnyface 于 2011-12-22 11:02 编辑
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