转牌有必要CALL吗？请求指导

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okerStars Zoom Hand #100985423822:  Hold'em No Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2013/07/05 10:51:21 CCT [2013/07/04 22:51:21 ET]
Table 'Lambda Velorum' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: KorTopPlayer ($643.16 in chips)
Seat 2: cis_san9984 ($984.95 in chips)
Seat 3: iSlamDunk ($500 in chips)
8 O& V% ]4 H- b: o9 ASeat 4: Julia Zhang ($1221.65 in chips)
9 s- F$ H0 n) v) o4 KSeat 5: khk24 ($528.35 in chips)
; S2 j; |% a6 q$ p+ SSeat 6: Dintyo ($1284.55 in chips)
cis_san9984: posts small blind $2.50
3 `! I5 k6 C0 t3 yiSlamDunk: posts big blind $5
: D' a4 }5 g4 k1 C* l/ _*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Julia Zhang [Qd Qs]
Julia Zhang: raises $10 to $15
khk24: CALLs $15
Dintyo: raises $35 to $50
+ R) ~& V! o0 H, `* ^" eKorTopPlayer: folds
cis_san9984: folds
7 H- w) X% \% A$ o8 Y  L: WiSlamDunk: folds
+ P( q0 V( n8 s7 ?) o4 n5 RJulia Zhang: raises $85 to $135
" E( w3 `$ U0 ^7 f* E; Ikhk24: folds
Dintyo: calls $85
  I% s: r" y: p7 M/ R" e*** FLOP *** [2c 2h 5s]
Julia Zhang: bets $135
4 S, f% e7 a! y1 I0 o/ x8 y7 tDintyo: calls $135
# f; |: L- B% b4 W5 W2 _# p, r*** TURN *** [2c 2h 5s] [3h]
) _/ q* _9 Z* Y: k# w) m& `Julia Zhang: checks
Dintyo: bets $250
+ _& o' G6 D  ^8 Z+ j# hJulia Zhang: calls $250
*** RIVER *** [2c 2h 5s 3h] [3d]
Julia Zhang: checks
Dintyo: bets $764.55 and is all-in
Julia Zhang: folds
Uncalled bet ($764.55) returned to Dintyo
Dintyo collected $1059.70 from pot
Dintyo: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1062.50 | Rake $2.80
Board [2c 2h 5s 3h 3d]
Seat 1: KorTopPlayer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cis_san9984 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: iSlamDunk (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Julia Zhang folded on the River
7 M  d/ k. x. q5 p" j, o. vSeat 5: khk24 folded before Flop
: K4 t3 e0 C4 TSeat 6: Dintyo collected ($1059.70)
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shinyshade

如图，只能读KK AA了

shinyshade

打NL500的ZOOM，很多人AA平CALL的

shinyshade

我基本只有hands up的时候，我AA不加注的，否则打不到钱的

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sun7800 发表于 2013-7-5 11:08
如果是reg，我想對手只能是aa。

河牌他很果断ALL IN，因为我over pair很明显了，所以我读KK可能性都很小。要不就是纯粹bluff，真心开不动他。但是转牌有必要CALL吗？我转牌犹豫很久

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world_game 发表于 2013-7-5 12:17
楼主玩这么大的现金桌居然没有用软件？装HM2记录下对手数据啊。。。

/ I# p" U1 X; U9 j: U# {, C装了PRO版本了，死活弄不好，一直不工作，放弃了，简直HM2折磨死我了

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jiang142597 发表于 2013-7-5 12:49
! x) t% S8 J) O( c这个真不好说，如果我是他，底池这么大了，既然你示弱，我也只能诈唬到底了！你最大的不应该就是手牌对他 ...

主要我也在想这个问题，但是PRE不raise他，平CALL我觉得麻烦更大，只不过底池不会那么大而已，最后有能力开他牌。如果我是TT和JJ的牌，转牌真不敢开枪，除非他是疯子。他应该是手对，最后敢推ALLIN，至少KK牌力，不可能诈唬

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jiang142597 发表于 2013-7-5 15:38
平CALL他的3BET其实不难选择，翻牌和转牌可以CHECK-CALL，河牌可以选择CHECK-FOLD或者CHECK-ALLIN

- }% {) \4 y6 i& b7 T0 c/ e5 V一直check call，底池到河牌也会不小，到时候更不知道他什么牌，只是我个人理解。

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jiang142597 发表于 2013-7-5 15:56
看对手吧，如果对手河牌还下注，你不能跟注，只能弃牌或者全下，这里的全下还是不赞成乱用，除非你觉得对 ...

苦恼啊，咳，慢慢加强自己实力吧