奥马哈里怎么才算比较大的牌

业子 · 发表于 2013-8-5 14:15:09

没怎么打过奥马哈，今天玩了一次，感觉玩的迷迷糊糊的，请教一下比较会玩的人吧。给点经验吧。两对算大牌吗？我是说的通常情况下。

soho418 · 发表于 2013-8-5 15:02:09

大小和德州扑克一样。
两对在奥马哈里算是一般的了。

记住必须用手中的两张就行

骑驴去旅行 · 发表于 2013-8-5 17:03:24

一样的.四张机会大了别也也机会多了

chaotic · 发表于 2013-8-15 05:53:41

Wrong question.  The answer to the right question is hands that can hit the flop easier than most, and play well post flop after hitting a good flop.

So that means hands where all 4 cards are working, and with good nut potentials.  The last point is vitally important, as it can be very expensive when you hold a strong 2nd nuts hand running into the nuts, and trust me, this happens a lot more in PLO than NLH.

AAxx with trash side cards, even with a single suited ace are often overplayed by beginners.  Of course, if stacks are shallow, and you can committ preflop, than any AAxx is good.  However, once we get into deep stack territory, trash/mediocre Aces should proceed with caution, especially when OOP.  That means more often than not, flattening a raise rather than 3-betting.

Lastly, try not to play 'two good hold-em hands' for value unless you have position and its cheap (67QK even when DS, 559T suited or otherwise, and 66AQ with a non-suited ace, are examples of two playable holdem hands that should be given a wide berth OOP in PLO).

chaotic · 发表于 2013-8-15 06:00:31

PS:

While double pairs are decent hands...there is a world of difference between 3388 and KK** DS. With the former, whilst you might want to see the flop cheapish IP, open-folding it wont lose you much value. With the latter, you can really go to war (unless you put your opponent on aces) against most hands.

Set over set is a lot more frequent in PLO, and I'd say over-playing 2nd/bottom sets is probably the one of most expensive mistakes made by beginners.

业子 · 发表于 2013-8-16 11:04:09

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Thank you. Should a brginner like me play more postflop than preflop? and few bluffs?

chaotic · 发表于 2013-8-16 19:39:31

业子发表于 2013-8-16 11:04
3 z" |. _2 V' k- G0 L2 ?* `5 o5 zThank you. Should a brginner like me play more postflop than preflop? and few bluffs?

It depends very much on stack sizes.  There are shallow tables where the maximum buyin is 20BBs, and its mostly a preflop game if there are any raises.  The good thing for beginners is that you rarely make any big mistakes playing this shallow if you treat it as a preflop game, as hot and cold equities run a lot closer in plo.

Having said that, PLO is mainly a post-flop game, even more so when compared with nlh.  No matter how nice the starting hand, if it misses the flop, the hand is more than likely to be beat if you get any action at all.  Good advice for beginners would be to play fairly passive-tight in EP, and loosen up as you get nearer the button.  For example, when sitting on 150 bbs in EP, you might just want to limp and not raise unless you hold a super premium hand (AAKK DS. AATJ DS TJQK DS etc), and open fold types of hands such as 3457, 3345 and 3366 until you get better at reading your opponents. All those hands are perfectly playable with position, but OOP for a beginner, they can be expensive hands to play.

I'd just concentrate on the fundementals and not worry too much about bluffing until you gain more experience at the game.  Stabbing at orphans pots are fine, as is betting on the come with big draws and the odd nut blocker play, if only for balance, but leave the big bluffs alone until you read players better.

chaotic · 发表于 2013-8-17 01:39:32

On the subject of trash aces, I folded 4 of them once. In the SB sitting on an effective stack of 180 BBs with quad aces, button open raised, and I folded my quad aces.

Probably one of the few times where its correct to fold aces preflop, although seeing a flop and hoping to bluff any flush, or value-betting small pairs on the flop isnt terrible either. Would have most likely played it if IP, but OOP, its too much of a win small/lose big (via bluffing) and/or too easily bluffed out sort of hand post flop, so open-folding OOP wont lose too much value either.

atm_thebigest · 发表于 2013-11-15 20:05:12

ATS AJS应该比较好的起手牌

SNRIYCQ · 发表于 2014-1-27 14:23:45

总体而言，在奥马哈中并没有绝对的大牌或小牌，主要看翻牌后能够击中好牌的概率。

基本上在奥马哈中较强的成牌有：
1. Full house
2. 坚果同花
3. 坚果顺子

击中这些成牌，基本上稳赢的机率很大。
如果凑成这样的成牌呢？

1. Full House————可以通过手中的起手对子凑成。故起手2对的手牌击中的概率较大。

2. 坚果同花————可以通过Axs这样的手牌凑成。

3.坚果顺子————通常连的比较紧的手牌凑成顺子的机率最大。

通常，如果手牌能凑上以上至少2种的听牌应该就算是不错的手牌了。

如：
AhAs8s9s————既可凑成三条，又能凑成坚果同花，还有不错的后门顺子。
Ah6h7h8s————既可凑成坚果同花，又可凑成顺子。