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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-19 14:25:02 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,不过对手接的也够勇敢啊!! @9 `# \0 C0 u5 R. S
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48楼是他Bluff allin,我后位用AK接了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-19 14:25:25 | 显示全部楼层
当时我只8BB的样子,还剩8人。
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发表于 2010-1-19 19:37:26 | 显示全部楼层
给楼主一点建议。我觉得我们论坛的培训班教授给大家的更多还是sng的基础理念。扑克之路是一个不断自我领悟修行的过程,指望靠一部葵花宝典就笑傲江湖是不可能的。比如AK在前期的preflop-allin无论是传统sng还是don一般来说都是-EV的决策。同时don也不能生搬硬套sng的打法。至于don和sng难易度,我觉得很难说,但我不建议打3.4sng,因为rake的比例太高,严重影响roi。我觉得6.5turbo的传统sng还不错,虽然rake比don高一些,但星际大战的排行榜奖励也算弥补了。3 ~0 U& f, V( L6 w1 P! t
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-20 00:51:33 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢Aceking的热心指导,我现在已经转向Don,不管怎么说,5.2turbo先打个几千盘再说.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-20 01:09:46 | 显示全部楼层
关于你上面的一番话,我觉得很对。论坛举办培训班,确实只是给我们提供了一个从最基础阶段开始重新认识、学习、理解德州扑克的机会。提供的战法也是从“适应绝大多数人的绝大多数情况”这一基本理念出发。事实上,我们必须通过大量练习,从战法出发,结合自己的性格特点,开发出属于自己的一套打法来。德州毕竟是一项斗智斗勇的竞技,而不是机械化执行战法的流水线作业。
7 e- N+ e% n9 z. [$ H我现在转向Don,只是因为我通过相互比较,觉得自己更适合Don、更习惯Don的风格节奏而已——当然,总场数还不到1K场,仅是一家之言,让大家见笑了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-21 02:09:30 | 显示全部楼层
  1. PokerStars Game #38455480582: Tournament #234224000, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/21 2:07:59 CCT [2010/01/20 13:07:59 ET]7 G  E$ V8 m! \- r3 F2 [  h
  2. Table '234224000 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button+ X+ W5 m3 O- v/ X4 w% k) b. ^
  3. Seat 1: the '0ld' (2135 in chips)
    8 e. W8 c2 m- f9 l8 i( P+ R& n6 x8 f
  4. Seat 3: Zeedeveel27 (275 in chips) ( J% q, n9 |2 j1 k- I# a
  5. Seat 4: hntrx (2360 in chips)
    3 u# e4 I/ q& a+ S% Y
  6. Seat 5: pzzm_poker (1405 in chips)
    8 M2 N1 Y6 M' X( _; l
  7. Seat 6: bananov (1450 in chips)
    3 y. U; ~" F8 ~& c: y! e; x
  8. Seat 7: sngCRUSHER (1440 in chips)
    . t. w( ^9 }8 K7 f
  9. Seat 8: japio777 (1475 in chips)
    & X0 ~4 W( h# X
  10. Seat 9: jennyjks10 (1440 in chips)
    8 P4 j  Z/ ^8 |  G$ T& U: W
  11. Seat 10: nyco.tche (3020 in chips)
    " r7 A7 W  Q& o( J+ q  K( v
  12. the '0ld': posts the ante 5
    ; M4 b0 O/ C9 u* y: b. F; s6 {
  13. Zeedeveel27: posts the ante 5. Z3 f( `2 l7 p! f* U
  14. hntrx: posts the ante 5
    ' _5 P+ ?3 g$ k6 \. G% @, O
  15. pzzm_poker: posts the ante 56 a/ i# W+ X' Y& S9 p+ M/ `
  16. bananov: posts the ante 5
    3 S7 H- ~6 w5 V- w0 ~/ p
  17. sngCRUSHER: posts the ante 5
    8 \7 }& u) L, V( r% M9 f: I; j
  18. japio777: posts the ante 5' s/ z- M: j* V" O
  19. jennyjks10: posts the ante 5
    1 d( |  d+ o% S2 D" ^8 [
  20. nyco.tche: posts the ante 5$ `2 u* d% W$ g9 ]1 k8 G
  21. pzzm_poker: posts small blind 25
    6 U! v! z( x0 U  }, L4 V
  22. bananov: posts big blind 50$ q+ K1 H1 j% ]4 x/ \3 T
  23. *** HOLE CARDS ***
    5 g1 C0 A  j! ~$ B( d1 \: H$ ]
  24. Dealt to pzzm_poker [4s 4h]
    ( s% b- U  ]3 J$ C
  25. sngCRUSHER: folds
    - o4 c1 L. D6 {, |* ^
  26. japio777: folds # d; Y. T5 t1 F
  27. jennyjks10: folds
    + N; X, S2 M( d( J
  28. nyco.tche: folds
    ' h. H& n& Y7 f  ]
  29. the '0ld': raises 100 to 150
    7 E7 Y' u; M' ?2 F
  30. Zeedeveel27: folds
    7 H' {" V8 y2 Z* U$ h1 ^
  31. hntrx: calls 150
    1 r' R4 {# ?  D( d! J" m+ n* w6 B
  32. pzzm_poker: calls 125
    6 p* ^+ O' C5 }+ y/ g
  33. bananov: folds
    0 b- \7 @6 [3 q# Y7 `% S
  34. *** FLOP *** [6c Qs 4d]8 w: Y0 d4 C7 u
  35. pzzm_poker: checks
    - B. {0 S; ^4 H, X+ C" V
  36. the '0ld': bets 1002 J) ?: B0 N1 }; y8 R
  37. hntrx: calls 100) y  i* b9 ^: a% f8 O
  38. pzzm_poker: calls 1002 j1 K/ I5 d! k2 `; g% a1 `
  39. *** TURN *** [6c Qs 4d] [2h]
    2 ]6 r% {! p+ W
  40. pzzm_poker: bets 200
    + ^9 X" W/ ]+ P$ G+ u7 P' `
  41. the '0ld': folds 7 y3 N1 Y. |. V* R: ~* D
  42. hntrx: raises 200 to 400
    # F6 H1 C$ w; b, N2 Z3 R& q
  43. pzzm_poker: raises 750 to 1150 and is all-in( l: s( c. C3 t. [- H
  44. hntrx: calls 750
    $ F' @. ?$ R6 [% R: f" w
  45. *** RIVER *** [6c Qs 4d 2h] [Ah]
    ' _5 V: I$ q$ ?( l9 T9 ?
  46. *** SHOW DOWN ***
    % ~1 k# l+ l5 f5 W2 p
  47. pzzm_poker: shows [4s 4h] (three of a kind, Fours)* R7 u% O3 ]; s9 M% o
  48. hntrx: shows [Ac As] (three of a kind, Aces)
    ' s2 q1 Y" F" s( b' v# s
  49. hntrx collected 3145 from pot
    8 a3 u0 U! k* t7 ~# c" h; ^
  50. *** SUMMARY ***
    4 \3 t2 K; [; y" q0 P
  51. Total pot 3145 | Rake 0 ; N! R- Z% K4 q- d
  52. Board [6c Qs 4d 2h Ah]
      W5 g/ x: \4 I+ T% Y
  53. Seat 1: the '0ld' folded on the Turn: V+ f9 u0 u% s7 e
  54. Seat 3: Zeedeveel27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)  H, q8 w, F% S2 Y+ \+ J
  55. Seat 4: hntrx (button) showed [Ac As] and won (3145) with three of a kind, Aces
    : V& p9 Y. [+ Y+ B
  56. Seat 5: pzzm_poker (small blind) showed [4s 4h] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
    ) M7 C. z; s8 L7 S2 z
  57. Seat 6: bananov (big blind) folded before Flop
    7 u+ s7 e+ N( g& _
  58. Seat 7: sngCRUSHER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ) c* Q6 L5 F4 P+ y+ y, ?
  59. Seat 8: japio777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    1 a3 r) c# E! N! ?
  60. Seat 9: jennyjks10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)* f2 f( `/ G* r% z& `+ @
  61. Seat 10: nyco.tche folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ) s, Z, L0 y* O9 X9 X; H, a
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今天很沮丧啊,打don以来第一天负收益,虽然知道这个时刻一定会来的,但是真的来的时候,我又是这么的沮丧。今天状态也不太好,好几手牌处理都有点欠妥……
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-21 02:11:26 | 显示全部楼层
  1. PokerStars Game #38455630915: Tournament #234223944, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/01/21 2:11:18 CCT [2010/01/20 13:11:18 ET]7 z  a$ ^4 e. b0 h9 S
  2. Table '234223944 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
    6 R1 k$ E4 K; U; V! n0 l/ M/ t& M8 m
  3. Seat 1: tpicn82 (1335 in chips)
    ) p5 E, L4 U$ c0 t! Y
  4. Seat 2: pzzm_poker (40 in chips) $ v2 C9 V, S! y
  5. Seat 3: Padre602 (2700 in chips) 6 N% Z# \) b3 k$ ~0 q+ [5 d) f2 M
  6. Seat 4: sngCRUSHER (1000 in chips) 1 [  t4 f, z( s/ i
  7. Seat 5: raAash1k (1280 in chips)
    0 h  W% I+ H  p, Y
  8. Seat 6: bananov (1535 in chips) 3 V3 I7 R' Q" a. M' L
  9. Seat 7: Stempo (2735 in chips)
    - b: D  o; y& Y/ R0 `
  10. Seat 8: Egmeer (1190 in chips)
    9 ]0 f# _: \! ~& }
  11. Seat 9: webguy024 (1375 in chips) " ]- C3 o1 U( y8 i# p% ?! ~
  12. Seat 10: the '0ld' (1810 in chips)
    : ~1 ]" M* T5 S1 G) U
  13. tpicn82: posts the ante 10
    " J; J. ^7 W3 I6 h; k. V5 a
  14. pzzm_poker: posts the ante 10
    & j+ a$ U3 `5 F8 g
  15. Padre602: posts the ante 10
    " H+ A0 K8 B7 }) N: e: @
  16. sngCRUSHER: posts the ante 10
    ) S' N6 B- q; |2 h6 k1 P
  17. raAash1k: posts the ante 10
    5 z( A$ E, j5 E& U' q9 _
  18. bananov: posts the ante 10
    ' o" M. n/ z4 I, n; F. x
  19. Stempo: posts the ante 10
    $ ?3 O+ f9 ?4 p3 E3 x
  20. Egmeer: posts the ante 10
    . n# T% O2 K0 [( m6 E
  21. webguy024: posts the ante 10! ]  ~# v( a1 h# N8 a1 b) [7 m) d
  22. the '0ld': posts the ante 10
    4 j- b$ t( S+ x8 x1 b3 [- C0 a
  23. raAash1k: posts small blind 509 N( C1 m" |" [$ G7 R1 d
  24. bananov: posts big blind 100
    " B" g- i. \9 I! y+ {3 V9 M
  25. *** HOLE CARDS ***
    . k: w8 @2 N0 e+ Z" R2 ?2 e
  26. Dealt to pzzm_poker [7h 8d]; F* w" P  n3 ~% k8 D
  27. Stempo: folds
    ( B+ e: Z4 t7 m' v  C; V
  28. Egmeer: folds   z; q, r; _6 x1 r
  29. webguy024: raises 100 to 2002 A' d2 Z7 G4 ]- B
  30. the '0ld': folds - d/ O8 a* U. o. i
  31. tpicn82: raises 100 to 300
    * B/ {& x0 T+ `% r# m6 b
  32. pzzm_poker: calls 30 and is all-in
    , k, R" D0 v; g( n# [
  33. Padre602: folds
    ) ?+ l7 b: k+ R3 Z/ [, g
  34. sngCRUSHER: folds & @" i4 m* m9 b  P% R
  35. raAash1k: folds
    ( i( O' a4 ?- m
  36. bananov: folds 7 U+ M2 J1 {. e
  37. webguy024: calls 100  f. M& Z. j! s/ g0 ^
  38. *** FLOP *** [Ks 5h 9h]
    1 {( @' l, \6 m6 h( l
  39. webguy024: checks & J! L" K) u+ W
  40. tpicn82: checks ; |) Y$ ]* d$ O8 y! M/ u
  41. *** TURN *** [Ks 5h 9h] [6h]
    ; ]4 w! [% g7 r/ S  g
  42. webguy024: checks
    ! D5 R4 C6 g& U0 [+ |0 n) r
  43. tpicn82: checks $ J& a0 }6 T7 h) M6 a: n! E+ x) Y
  44. *** RIVER *** [Ks 5h 9h 6h] [4c]
      O0 S" h3 D+ {
  45. webguy024: checks
    ! K, t- Y! |; k- U: g9 f
  46. tpicn82: checks 9 C2 @% E+ {) `4 L; o
  47. *** SHOW DOWN ***
    6 h% k5 S0 V, E' b# w
  48. webguy024: shows [Ah 3h] (a flush, Ace high)
    9 l% A0 p$ h- N5 ~
  49. tpicn82: mucks hand
    , k! }4 x: s* Y& h7 ^
  50. webguy024 collected 630 from side pot
    " y6 ~% I) V* [  }; W/ w
  51. pzzm_poker: mucks hand
    " a1 M4 Q; t' A3 @( Y# Q
  52. webguy024 collected 250 from main pot; b$ M) N5 U. O, s
  53. *** SUMMARY ***8 i/ H, n5 z) Q* V2 n) g0 m# j# J
  54. Total pot 880 Main pot 250. Side pot 630. | Rake 0
    % b2 ^! T  i2 u
  55. Board [Ks 5h 9h 6h 4c]
    1 {4 V8 B# s7 c/ Z  a2 ~0 A" T4 S
  56. Seat 1: tpicn82 mucked [8c Ad]; t2 X( W+ B4 g; ^" a% h% x2 K
  57. Seat 2: pzzm_poker mucked [7h 8d]+ o8 v7 A0 L7 n
  58. Seat 3: Padre602 folded before Flop (didn't bet): ]8 f6 B0 w# |; {6 A, A
  59. Seat 4: sngCRUSHER (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)& h& j; o1 g  U7 O. Z, L
  60. Seat 5: raAash1k (small blind) folded before Flop' A5 t2 F4 I3 P0 A! h9 }( d! u" G9 [
  61. Seat 6: bananov (big blind) folded before Flop+ I4 z7 n# k; \5 i4 L
  62. Seat 7: Stempo folded before Flop (didn't bet)4 `+ {, ~. t. }0 K
  63. Seat 8: Egmeer folded before Flop (didn't bet)) D' v6 E" t- _# J/ D# a3 r
  64. Seat 9: webguy024 showed [Ah 3h] and won (880) with a flush, Ace high
    - ]: x0 c1 q5 B" N
  65. Seat 10: the '0ld' folded before Flop (didn't bet)$ u) i3 E* v( i6 @# n  z  P
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KK被AK河杀后还剩30,all了,转来的6还让我高兴了一下,毕竟主池也有250。结果两人一翻开牌我就傻眼了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-21 02:13:22 | 显示全部楼层
  1. PokerStars Game #38455554300: Tournament #234224036, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/21 2:09:37 CCT [2010/01/20 13:09:37 ET]9 J  K, z* i* K: C
  2. Table '234224036 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button6 I, ?& M& C8 Y* w6 U, g5 W8 B
  3. Seat 1: a shlep (1365 in chips) 3 _/ R% h2 \5 n% w" z  T
  4. Seat 2: erijor (1720 in chips)
      I+ l( p' i7 A% K5 \. g" G
  5. Seat 3: Varvara666 (1990 in chips)
    / L, v; k7 U5 U4 Y' \
  6. Seat 4: Black-Asso (1360 in chips)
    / V7 w; ]# N4 d/ r6 r
  7. Seat 5: acid dark (1700 in chips) + Z3 _& A6 ~& F$ T5 ~- ^4 P# E
  8. Seat 7: dirty9mm (2590 in chips) 4 E" c! X+ N$ n1 c* k
  9. Seat 8: bananov (1450 in chips)
    - w+ P" _* E4 {  t
  10. Seat 9: pzzm_poker (1545 in chips) : m- Y4 {  F4 ?# k. @
  11. Seat 10: Bosstone737 (1280 in chips)
    # j* U& k. B; D) |2 K) P- W
  12. a shlep: posts the ante 5
    ) e+ z7 R( m. n3 ?% _% j
  13. erijor: posts the ante 5
    : H5 Z# T" y9 R, c- {3 D: i2 H
  14. Varvara666: posts the ante 5* L. j5 K! t" |/ J6 Q1 _
  15. Black-Asso: posts the ante 5; G. Q) s" _, y! y
  16. acid dark: posts the ante 5
    6 b( P1 B5 d# z3 A# [/ r
  17. dirty9mm: posts the ante 5  Z! G- L0 b, l" _  z
  18. bananov: posts the ante 5! m; n# Q9 w" @- i! N0 E$ x9 s
  19. pzzm_poker: posts the ante 5/ G0 {$ `; i- R% K! J3 j% Z
  20. Bosstone737: posts the ante 5
    ' K- p  R6 v( p. z' _
  21. bananov: posts small blind 25
      S# e6 S0 i) c# Y' x9 R
  22. pzzm_poker: posts big blind 50
    ) t& G- \. u! M: I* X+ n
  23. *** HOLE CARDS ***
    : L% S' h% H; y+ W  d# u; J
  24. Dealt to pzzm_poker [Jc Js]
    5 Y  R! Y$ N8 v$ _
  25. Bosstone737: folds
    - v. ?0 t$ K! y5 t) E' g1 O% |* a6 D
  26. a shlep: raises 150 to 200# D/ I: C& G* A8 A
  27. erijor: folds
    " f$ u3 {" v- j, N4 n
  28. Varvara666: folds 1 U/ J. b# c9 _8 y: D1 A% u- G
  29. Black-Asso: folds ' \7 T' l0 }3 X: O/ J( J! v! F
  30. acid dark: folds . }& l9 a' b. W' [* h* `2 Y4 z
  31. dirty9mm: folds
    0 n6 P2 h3 ^0 h7 A! k5 Q6 \" ]2 e
  32. bananov: folds 9 T: ]6 u/ S, G& M8 v4 o
  33. pzzm_poker: raises 250 to 450! U. C4 ]* h6 @4 |% i4 T
  34. a shlep: calls 250+ e4 t! ~3 }+ C; y$ g
  35. *** FLOP *** [Jh Ts Jd]7 C4 S4 X: B" s& s% l. c0 U" M5 i: J$ r
  36. pzzm_poker: checks % D( _3 O6 V3 @) B* I3 H0 h- X& i
  37. a shlep: bets 910 and is all-in( w% S* Q2 D. A! k! D3 |$ e
  38. pzzm_poker: calls 910$ p. N2 b" j& o7 u6 o/ ]
  39. *** TURN *** [Jh Ts Jd] [Kh]; s* [7 s7 j* i# @% ^/ w/ f
  40. *** RIVER *** [Jh Ts Jd Kh] [5d]; x2 H- ]: d; D8 ^" i, l5 u
  41. *** SHOW DOWN ***7 x! `9 a2 D# B% h# y# i( J
  42. pzzm_poker: shows [Jc Js] (four of a kind, Jacks)" Y0 N  M. u! I5 ]
  43. a shlep: shows [Ad Kc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)$ R4 P6 U1 t6 u. l
  44. pzzm_poker collected 2790 from pot" f4 j% |0 w; |9 E% O
  45. *** SUMMARY ***
    0 y/ d% \9 z, C- C, N- P2 S0 d- ~$ c
  46. Total pot 2790 | Rake 0
    ! G1 j! |; ]9 x( q) h0 }
  47. Board [Jh Ts Jd Kh 5d]
    ; S( X* }. J( u' d3 y
  48. Seat 1: a shlep showed [Ad Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks, p3 a; ~6 h) J0 r+ o
  49. Seat 2: erijor folded before Flop (didn't bet)+ y" ?8 ?9 v- ?; y
  50. Seat 3: Varvara666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)1 V; w0 \* Z0 {
  51. Seat 4: Black-Asso folded before Flop (didn't bet)" ]) j5 m) M& g0 d/ l2 W$ O
  52. Seat 5: acid dark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    2 L/ f4 Y" v- T: ~- R! F2 U
  53. Seat 7: dirty9mm (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    + M# Z8 ^5 {8 O4 j: J. ]" z* ]0 v
  54. Seat 8: bananov (small blind) folded before Flop$ E# \  J4 R& \& D3 ?
  55. Seat 9: pzzm_poker (big blind) showed [Jc Js] and won (2790) with four of a kind, Jacks& C1 J& d( [' ]9 b8 @
  56. Seat 10: Bosstone737 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      ^! G4 P$ @+ Q0 u
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最终入圈率低至20%,收益-67%,虽然老去关注收益是不好的习惯,还是不得不发发牢骚。
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  1. PokerStars Game #38551798452: Tournament #234890486, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/01/23 0:46:38 CCT [2010/01/22 11:46:38 ET], x/ y$ F- l% X5 l
  2. Table '234890486 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button. _" i) B  r; w' A0 e5 l( ^% _( y
  3. Seat 2: Lemaken (2410 in chips) # E/ n* Y: s* g- T4 I3 Z
  4. Seat 4: Valerich14 (1045 in chips)
    $ _: y  n3 l* P4 H
  5. Seat 5: lloret65 (965 in chips) - j1 o2 M$ {' z( @5 X3 `
  6. Seat 6: Dimas.222 (1425 in chips) ! O. _: x: [  s: b; j5 X8 q4 G
  7. Seat 7: monzon2009 (1855 in chips) : v; l9 a+ X) t; z" |# H8 W3 [
  8. Seat 8: pzzm_poker (2815 in chips)
    9 V" D! O9 v& Q/ n9 b; k$ A
  9. Seat 9: andh1 (2135 in chips)
    & `$ A1 J! {" y  y/ T" X; D
  10. Seat 10: PimMoNL (2350 in chips) % h2 ?; Z% O7 x
  11. Lemaken: posts the ante 15
    8 H" ^4 _& o  f$ t. [/ Q: g; g! Z
  12. Valerich14: posts the ante 15
    + n  U4 |% O* |8 \$ Z, X
  13. lloret65: posts the ante 15
    5 }. b& T& `4 c( G. y
  14. Dimas.222: posts the ante 15; T4 Y& v/ d+ b% r8 m
  15. monzon2009: posts the ante 15# w6 Z( x& r0 |' Y2 A* A* k
  16. pzzm_poker: posts the ante 15
    + f- e& V4 F% [  P$ s/ W
  17. andh1: posts the ante 158 j; }5 Z* h* C5 P3 G4 X
  18. PimMoNL: posts the ante 15/ _# S% S$ g. ]0 a7 d$ J
  19. lloret65: posts small blind 75
    % P& k  |- b2 q
  20. Dimas.222: posts big blind 150
    5 [# y/ p! J/ B$ b
  21. *** HOLE CARDS ***
    & }. [# d9 Z( Q& f+ L
  22. Dealt to pzzm_poker [Ac Ah]# o8 O) V4 ^/ V+ A) b6 |) [
  23. monzon2009: calls 150
    ) l0 B5 U+ q, f# M3 u# ^0 K. d
  24. pzzm_poker: raises 300 to 450
    4 ]) H$ R2 J1 G; h/ J) S: q: g% T
  25. andh1: folds
    - }8 n6 |* Q( M' A) n. F
  26. PimMoNL: folds & Y' q) V* a& N/ Y! N
  27. Lemaken: folds ; p2 l( c$ v0 B
  28. Valerich14: folds . w7 M  B7 D: a4 D" V
  29. lloret65: folds
    , W% o( l) f  n3 G& K7 v8 V
  30. Dimas.222: raises 960 to 1410 and is all-in- C7 a6 y7 t6 T, i$ N% O
  31. monzon2009: calls 1260$ a# }' Y. |& T3 A; o$ i
  32. pzzm_poker: raises 1390 to 2800 and is all-in
    : `+ T0 _0 d* B! {6 b+ c
  33. monzon2009: calls 430 and is all-in
    ' r6 F% I2 F, E9 D* F/ \: N
  34. Uncalled bet (960) returned to pzzm_poker" {( [0 [# @* a; [: T
  35. *** FLOP *** [Th 9d 7s]" r: j& n/ d! h6 j
  36. *** TURN *** [Th 9d 7s] [8h]% U  U0 Q6 I' z+ U2 C8 i( p# E
  37. *** RIVER *** [Th 9d 7s 8h] [6c]
    7 s/ J8 h7 u# S7 C- c4 t! h8 G
  38. *** SHOW DOWN ***
    " s# t1 k5 k3 N# W8 k# c
  39. monzon2009: shows [Kh Kc] (a straight, Six to Ten), w, B5 A8 I; O* V8 T
  40. pzzm_poker: shows [Ac Ah] (a straight, Six to Ten)
    ( T% K6 {( z/ r0 Z8 S5 O
  41. monzon2009 collected 430 from side pot0 e  I9 w7 c) O6 Z. Z
  42. pzzm_poker collected 430 from side pot
    $ O2 b5 m; h  `  B- E
  43. Dimas.222: shows [Kd As] (a straight, Six to Ten)# d% q* \5 R6 t# N& b. i6 }. w6 m# ~6 k
  44. Dimas.222 collected 1475 from main pot  v, ]2 J1 |6 U' S5 u
  45. monzon2009 collected 1475 from main pot( s, S, R/ H, o( D
  46. pzzm_poker collected 1475 from main pot
    4 N& i* H$ B4 r! f
  47. *** SUMMARY ***4 @- j- t% l) T2 P
  48. Total pot 5285 Main pot 4425. Side pot 860. | Rake 0
    . r2 N9 C: D5 u' Y3 p! f
  49. Board [Th 9d 7s 8h 6c]
    1 k& I* D/ O% j  W2 w9 R
  50. Seat 2: Lemaken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    9 Y! a* F1 z* p  S- _; T
  51. Seat 4: Valerich14 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    - z, k! X5 Q# c$ k
  52. Seat 5: lloret65 (small blind) folded before Flop
      n! ~* @; n) c
  53. Seat 6: Dimas.222 (big blind) showed [Kd As] and won (1475) with a straight, Six to Ten
    ( }+ A5 B4 A/ x' _: M- D7 j; X
  54. Seat 7: monzon2009 showed [Kh Kc] and won (1905) with a straight, Six to Ten, u. v: @6 K+ h% k7 L6 W
  55. Seat 8: pzzm_poker showed [Ac Ah] and won (1905) with a straight, Six to Ten
    / }/ A* }6 o( G# B
  56. Seat 9: andh1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    $ d9 I) o- @% K6 a
  57. Seat 10: PimMoNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ' f, p; o6 C( l$ u
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这牌,我最近可没伤天害理啊……
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  1. PokerStars Game #38552802215: Tournament #234901283, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/01/23 1:11:06 CCT [2010/01/22 12:11:06 ET]
    6 n9 D0 [9 H' n8 z% Z% a, b
  2. Table '234901283 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
    ! o  @; d6 [7 L: }6 B0 q" X
  3. Seat 2: 5pjuv3r (1445 in chips) is sitting out
    1 M7 O+ U3 c& e
  4. Seat 3: LuiSeeeeRa (1515 in chips)   G' j2 _6 Q7 e4 E* J, f* F2 X$ K$ t
  5. Seat 4: Evaristo87 (2825 in chips)
    3 C6 }3 s/ G# m+ |. r  \
  6. Seat 5: DimaPogozhev (1470 in chips)
    / ]1 |  p3 p$ |" U! B, y/ k9 c
  7. Seat 6: RVORTEP (1505 in chips) ( C8 ]0 \" r( d& w/ h
  8. Seat 7: Laskov2004 (1425 in chips) 7 D* G0 e1 p5 O; D/ x. t1 h
  9. Seat 8: Snowg00n (1455 in chips) 8 X  i* T: t( U
  10. Seat 9: pzzm_poker (1485 in chips) 8 d  L% w8 ~! x+ p* |! o/ X# O
  11. Seat 10: Eckoniner (1875 in chips)
    ' M' G) G5 ]( x
  12. Evaristo87: posts small blind 15" z2 W4 ?8 ]4 A5 Z2 B5 C0 Y2 G# E& x. {
  13. DimaPogozhev: posts big blind 30
    % X. o6 l" F$ U# Y8 @! |$ ~
  14. *** HOLE CARDS ***
    % w* t# [. h2 i4 u
  15. Dealt to pzzm_poker [Js Jd]% K: B* v  t/ N8 c. L
  16. RVORTEP: folds
    ! ~8 D! p- F# i. M. y2 ^
  17. Laskov2004: folds
    0 x( b8 e: q* o6 @+ h' w
  18. Snowg00n: folds 4 K4 I( r; Z+ M, r" Z" D
  19. pzzm_poker: raises 120 to 1508 }! q& j. @2 e* ~/ U0 d
  20. Eckoniner: folds
    1 [( O7 X. {2 q& l/ V
  21. 5pjuv3r: folds / f% H3 X# |2 I1 C7 }& i. W
  22. LuiSeeeeRa: folds
    ( N) Z, P7 V6 W- S3 k/ {
  23. Evaristo87: calls 135
    * J* A9 E) W: n- E( X
  24. DimaPogozhev: folds . ]& u& ?7 B# Z. b  d# ~2 g
  25. *** FLOP *** [4c 8h 9h]0 a% T  s9 K0 y6 }2 n
  26. Evaristo87: checks
    ( c# n+ M( D" q! z7 H
  27. pzzm_poker: bets 120% r4 R$ I$ {9 U- Q+ C
  28. 5pjuv3r has returned
    9 V- h! j1 G. F3 o; I, p+ u8 m
  29. Evaristo87: calls 120
    ' `. {5 x/ o8 N4 n* D
  30. *** TURN *** [4c 8h 9h] [9d]7 ]) j4 v! `9 L
  31. Evaristo87: bets 330% s" x5 u$ ~* t/ i% }5 Z5 n  a6 ]
  32. pzzm_poker: folds
    : \9 K! c0 q0 w# H5 a
  33. Uncalled bet (330) returned to Evaristo87! K" Z0 A' E* F' h: H$ u7 F6 ]
  34. Evaristo87 collected 570 from pot
    , ?$ }+ W3 {0 ~& y
  35. Evaristo87: doesn't show hand + F) K1 Q/ k1 f; z# ?! g. y
  36. *** SUMMARY ***
    4 l) w" i) `7 a& ~' C" t
  37. Total pot 570 | Rake 0
    4 V4 ?- y7 k6 T, s* D$ o0 |+ k& f
  38. Board [4c 8h 9h 9d]
    $ }3 Q3 X( f; l0 t" o% V
  39. Seat 2: 5pjuv3r folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    . O2 [* l9 E% C; t7 @' [. {
  40. Seat 3: LuiSeeeeRa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ) N1 X6 M& J: \& \; m+ d
  41. Seat 4: Evaristo87 (small blind) collected (570)9 i; O# M7 }3 W% q
  42. Seat 5: DimaPogozhev (big blind) folded before Flop0 \! W5 B) i3 w
  43. Seat 6: RVORTEP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    , u3 M0 s) s0 P* y2 P- H0 X
  44. Seat 7: Laskov2004 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    0 o$ B  e$ w, _
  45. Seat 8: Snowg00n folded before Flop (didn't bet)7 N7 m( C8 n: k$ P3 {$ \/ x$ J
  46. Seat 9: pzzm_poker folded on the Turn  R1 ^9 u- I) H) F
  47. Seat 10: Eckoniner folded before Flop (didn't bet)8 J1 r$ p5 f$ b& E2 i
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这手处理的是否有问题?
( m  p* s% t+ ~. @% H我flop超对下半个pot,他跟,我就想他是否顶对,转牌后他率先下大半个Pot,像是在告诉我“9在我这呢,不信你就来吧”,我fold了。
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  1. PokerStars Game #38553463917: Tournament #234901235, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/01/23 1:26:13 CCT [2010/01/22 12:26:13 ET]+ n1 E: h# v0 M: U
  2. Table '234901235 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
      l( H6 _5 u7 ~( j8 P. N, N
  3. Seat 1: vicent14 (2248 in chips)
    ( x/ l9 K- p! P' y
  4. Seat 3: LuiSeeeeRa (975 in chips)
    " P- h; d  T, o
  5. Seat 5: GoodLuckUta* (2225 in chips) 9 V. ?1 p) D  i% R
  6. Seat 6: betman77 (2947 in chips)
    9 x) T# T( W2 G+ L+ o! z6 u
  7. Seat 7: 5pjuv3r (1095 in chips) & o* U3 s/ D' S. |7 E3 J
  8. Seat 8: pzzm_poker (1000 in chips)
    $ y0 h, c- o5 j8 A: G; H! f' f
  9. Seat 9: dj_kassir (2615 in chips)
    1 T- X* t+ @" g/ x3 S5 i1 G
  10. Seat 10: ellli10 (1895 in chips) * {3 O; H5 N8 z, Z4 i' D( h* C
  11. vicent14: posts the ante 15  J' F7 V) _) J& }
  12. LuiSeeeeRa: posts the ante 15% ]0 k; v1 a' q- W; j: D9 T
  13. GoodLuckUta*: posts the ante 15
    ) W5 o& B/ W( I  \
  14. betman77: posts the ante 15
    & v" o! T0 |9 j
  15. 5pjuv3r: posts the ante 15
    0 g% Y" x3 p9 B- m
  16. pzzm_poker: posts the ante 153 j' g' `- u& y* ^0 C* C
  17. dj_kassir: posts the ante 159 u7 Q/ ^3 F) C% _# L" S
  18. ellli10: posts the ante 157 S5 c5 R! y0 \9 ~5 \: J
  19. pzzm_poker: posts small blind 75
    % \& g8 F% p6 B
  20. dj_kassir: posts big blind 150  y  H2 e' S9 _) h4 [
  21. *** HOLE CARDS ***/ T7 n' Q9 o; s* f/ \
  22. Dealt to pzzm_poker [Ac Qc]! r% Y  H# G# a5 }% J3 W
  23. ellli10: folds
    ( I1 F3 M& `, b! f! \# [  k
  24. vicent14: folds
    " X3 }" H# w! Z  `# h! R! I" ^' [
  25. LuiSeeeeRa: folds
    # l1 T- p3 a# J* q) I
  26. GoodLuckUta*: folds
    5 N  h- R5 t' E# A) A: U
  27. betman77: folds 0 {3 k& A- v3 t
  28. 5pjuv3r: raises 930 to 1080 and is all-in
    " L' |8 e4 V' @; U/ c1 V& u
  29. pzzm_poker: calls 910 and is all-in8 w  _' q- d* f
  30. dj_kassir: folds ! R/ Q2 S. h" l6 i
  31. Uncalled bet (95) returned to 5pjuv3r6 m6 X/ I4 h; E! q! @' e) H
  32. *** FLOP *** [3s 3d 2h]
    6 Z. i. O- ?! i# s% {
  33. *** TURN *** [3s 3d 2h] [5s]" K2 r0 @- O6 ?  N7 @# x* F# V/ R
  34. *** RIVER *** [3s 3d 2h 5s] [Ad]
    " @" l5 U, B4 k6 ?' Z
  35. *** SHOW DOWN ***. D3 g" I( M, ^8 \3 r; y
  36. pzzm_poker: shows [Ac Qc] (two pair, Aces and Threes)  p, p" D1 a  Q6 |8 l
  37. 5pjuv3r: shows [3c 3h] (four of a kind, Threes)
    $ t: D! k% i$ N( Q2 L% R3 F& O
  38. 5pjuv3r collected 2240 from pot
    " \7 I7 N( L' A0 W! \$ N
  39. *** SUMMARY ***8 S; ?/ g2 O. V+ t' m6 z- G$ C0 t  o
  40. Total pot 2240 | Rake 0
    # p  a  g4 E8 x8 P" k
  41. Board [3s 3d 2h 5s Ad]' M* P6 l8 w9 h/ }
  42. Seat 1: vicent14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)6 ?7 Y& Z7 F% ?3 i- z
  43. Seat 3: LuiSeeeeRa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    8 G( S7 v$ S# r
  44. Seat 5: GoodLuckUta* folded before Flop (didn't bet)$ q! w4 C, P: f) `  W
  45. Seat 6: betman77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)+ G. q6 F- E/ c* ^1 Q# @
  46. Seat 7: 5pjuv3r (button) showed [3c 3h] and won (2240) with four of a kind, Threes
    5 b1 B6 \3 ^6 T! B3 o; i1 x
  47. Seat 8: pzzm_poker (small blind) showed [Ac Qc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
    ; X3 w3 c  d+ c4 ]
  48. Seat 9: dj_kassir (big blind) folded before Flop; W: o8 \; ~. y8 }
  49. Seat 10: ellli10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ; g( w6 s: e6 _+ t, {
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这手处理的是否有问题?虽然AQs拿来加注别人比较好,拿来跟注并不怎么样,可是当时我只有6BB的样子了。不过换种思路,已经过了SB位,我又可以多看一圈牌,这种情况下,call是否是最优化的选择呢?
! y  x( v" o' u. N$ d还想到一点,补充:当时我跟他,还有一个原因,他在BTN位置,俗称的偷盲位,这也是我的思考之一。
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