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发表于 2014-8-31 13:27:14 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
FLOP flush board(Qs 7s 6s) 3bet pot(AA8K complete air):
+ I. b: ~2 N# E; Q: {$ r9 n' KThere was a time when it was okay to cbet this flop 100% of time , people were kind of folding too much.  But in today's game, we have to be more balanced over there. vs good regular we can not over cbeting this; x+ w0 o6 P2 U7 }& S, r

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-8-31 13:39:08 | 只看该作者
In Plo there would be a lot of Flush over flush and Boat over boat hands and they nearyl drawing dead or only have few outs. Where u should play this better than your opponents to build much EV there

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发表于 2014-8-31 15:51:01 | 只看该作者
I don't care who you are! where you come from! You'd better do as Chinese do!——— Chinese character only! no English!!! understand???

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-1 14:50:03 | 只看该作者
Hero open 2bb with AkJT ss Btn and sb calls, and LAG BB squeeze 8bb . both calls.
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( \; a& G) Z9 Y" i, w. d3 Ebluffing raise vs float calling in a board texture favor to wide range btn caller:
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+ B* |* ?$ O6 WWe will have plenty of better hands to call/float with, that can actually hit something(like all pair+, gutters and OE hands). And if we start calling this as a default, we will be calling way too much I feel. Also if we call, SB might shove some hands which he would be forced to fold if the action before him was bet and a raise, and this would be a disaster for us.
; P, E- F% d; \& Q. _& g9 z9 _More I look at this spot, the more I think raising might be the best play. I would like to have some bluffs in my range in every spot, and good spots to bluff raise in 3 handed pots when theres someone to act after you, doesnt come all that often. Flop texture hits our wide button range way best here, and BB who 3 bets and the Cbets the flop cant assume we would be bluffing here all that often because its 3 way, so i think we can make him fold some decent hands. Also that we block part of his 3bet pre -  GII hands (AA and KK with some backup), is very very helpfull in this spot. For SB to be moving in after bet and a raise, he should be having like top2+ or wrap , which he will have very rarely in this board texture. 9 x* F. L0 O* n' ~5 t9 Z4 r
So I think when trying to keep our game in balance, I like bluff raising this and some other combos that blocks 3bettors 3bet and GII on flop range. Raising hands that have enough equity against their ranges, and get it in if face action. And I think I am still having enough decent/good hands to call/float the flop. It might just be that raising>folding>calling.
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there might be some merrits for calling as kind of an exploitative adjustment: If you find that your opponent is giving up way too much on turns after getting called, then you can just float like hell and calling might be the best play with almost all of your hands. Unfortunately these type of players just doesn't exist all that often anymore, so I wouldnt start calling this as a default.

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-15 13:26:44 | 只看该作者
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, V9 q# D! y; b/ V$ J/ pso ya, I should not be that lazy as usual.  keep it up and do something efficient!5 n. G5 P4 @, P. n! w4 ?4 Z
I will watch a video every day  post my thought and make some notes here. And I will copy one hand i play bad and impressive here and do a review.
, {4 ~' s  W, x- k+ m  m( oanyway, the sec half month of Sep begin,  just try ur best to become a better player.  gl!!!0 O6 \. Q! V7 V/ J! y9 K
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-15 14:14:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Jeans89 于 2014-9-15 14:38 编辑 " H7 P; m6 _+ C# v+ M* L" K# H3 {

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9 x  p2 Q* r) e8 W% jhe do not think a lot of players will raise KK blockers here. it may make sense with KK + flush draw here to raise. But still, a lot of KK or even KQ may just call here since opponent may continue bet turn/ board may change a bit turn. so villian raising here seems to be strong!! J5 H' }  b4 t% J- e7 q" c! z! C
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sometimes, it is huge equity to make sense of misrepresent hands there, to get some imply equity turn and river.
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hero open pre and got 3beted and call.   flop check check. turn hero deceides take a stab here since it not kind of folding over pair vilian, but hero still get enough equity doing this and villan would rarely raise this spot.  river hero finish his flush and deceides to check.  it is close.  since villian may not pay off with his aces. so checking here is okay
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8 E, P' E3 ~/ J4 ~# Bhero open btn and get 3beted sb. snap call IP pre.    flop kind of standard check check here take a free card. on turn, villian will give up hands if he deceide to give up flop, and by checking twice, his range here is significant weak unless he is very tricky. so hero bet about 70%,  bit of big bet , but since heros range here is polarizing, it is okay and still have equity if villian have aces or ace jack.
+ U* T7 K5 Y  D: m3 X  V$ B+ X/ Nit is not a great bet in the world, but it works very well in PL500 this field.      
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-26 14:19:04 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Jeans89 于 2014-9-26 14:35 编辑
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4way flop, huge equity not bet IP since let sm flush draw drawing, still many options here. turn value bet IP and river a ambitious thin value bet,  since hero may check take a free card of the hands like 567x , here is not so many hands missed to bluff.  BUt villian may lead his 34, 44,38 ,A3 sb, so hero deceides to make a ambitious thin value here1 n+ m7 T4 d8 c7 |, g- @/ T1 A

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hero open and got 3beted. flop the board structure is bit favor to hero since villians 3bet range is more likely AAxx, connectro rundowns or even junk double suited hands, but not likely KKxx, QQxx,AKQx where may be dominated when hero 4bet back.  $ ~4 M( {  z8 k0 W, c1 b) E

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-2 13:20:44 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 Jeans89 于 2014-10-2 14:11 编辑 8 N0 p- }' i( X: o5 w& y

0 Z& N- B& v, G3 tcome and do a quick update as the video will out of date soon this month% G: n0 q' H* }, t# |
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in this hand, omg barreled flop turn and river. on turn, he think most of the opponent may more or less drawing dead and he want to get pay off by sm str8 so he drill like 70% of the pot.  river, his thoughts: first they all check to him so he kind so often have the best hand, plus both opponent called 2 streets before so they must well connected with the low cards and unlikely have the K:dger. but this situation he may not that easy get pay off since jeans tough to call facing 2 opponents there, i deceides to value 80% here anyway.
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% _* i1 \8 B+ y; h# s" O- cthis spot,  lefort is very wide range c/r. so omgs reraise gii range is basiclly :  sets,  2 pair plus something and nut flush draw plus something,  but not wrap/str8 draws so he most just flat his str8 draw here. so the problem is,  he may facing many bad turns like (24678) where villian may lead and knowing he has less str8 here!!!  so with 3 pairs hero just peel IP here
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-2 13:36:01 | 只看该作者
Jeans89 发表于 2014-9-15 13:26
2 @0 f7 @* P2 zso ya, I should not be that lazy as usual.  keep it up and do something efficient!4 o* J# f1 D3 C4 j
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guilty to not finish this and i think lack of diciplines and life tilt result
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