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发表于 2012-6-12 01:22:34 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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3 e9 {  M! O' ]: f! o从别的论坛上看到一篇帖子觉得写的不错,就自己翻译了一下。
! [/ }. p6 {7 q% v(翻译也蛮累的。。可否求点竞技币鼓励……)

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* L: H* L' L: J" @1 H+ K我之前一直在想啥时候写个什么牛逼帖子,估计没几个人认识我。首先要说的是我这帖子没啥新内容,这
4 h* y6 e$ m% ~1 C- E( X( Q* L( `帖子很长,而且可能到处是语法错误什么的,不过我会写的容易理解一些。我在论坛潜水蛮久了,之前在
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UIGEA法案出台前就开始玩牌了(UIGEA是Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act,美国' |; F8 B* y: }) A' U1 N
2006年出台的非法互联网DU强制法案 ,为了变成一个牛逼的牌手我玩了好多不同的扑克玩法,但一直
9 _4 S/ O- \" R都没变的真正牛逼……我现在可以稳定盈利,不过我不玩高额桌,而且我知道如果写策略贴的话哥不是水平
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. A' Z4 F7 [, |' B不管怎么样,我有个把月没有正式工作了,也没打算找个正式工作。所以咧,我一直觉得应该写个帖子来回2 U, G8 |& d9 {; w& E% ]* ?" @3 Q/ \
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这些年哥的牌手生涯起起伏伏,一直都不尽如我意,让我老在想哥到底为啥要当牌手。当一个二流牌手是我
% Z8 X0 g& e$ T& G+ Y- N这辈子做过的最难的事了。当你在收支平衡点跟大家一样起起落落而且没赚到啥大钱的时候,你就该意识到
; @! Q9 K/ o( L% M+ E$ [. @5 {你没那么牛逼,不过一般情况下你意识不到,因为你总是以短期盈利来做评判标准。4 O9 D/ W% T8 x% _# x
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某个月你赢了10K,然后你觉得自己终于打的不错了。然后下个月你到了下风期开始输钱。那时候你不会承* r1 M# O0 q# h0 f/ X/ Y! _1 R
认是你的打牌技术不行。某天晚上你因为输了40个buyin而ot了,你无法接受失败,你的自尊心或者自负心! D/ _+ p% `' P2 T
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6 W: m8 N+ a& h' q$ s没错,40个buyin在20小时的session里输光了,我的意思是,不休息,不吃饭,不错过任何一手牌,这不是& U7 f1 J# K* X0 M9 B% Q
第一次也不会是最后一次。你读过很多帖子都说如果一个session里输很多或者正在经历下风期时就应该停
$ b: z3 `8 v  e# n& ^/ @9 j一段时间不打牌。但你不能停,你觉得只是你运气不好,你还是赢了点钱的,而且你做职业牌手在社会上会0 E( A" `% v2 h
被认为是很傻X的,所以你最好TMD能成功。! D; }: n* N! G* r5 {

- y9 a2 B- v( |3 v你觉得如果我不OT,我就能赚NNNNN多钱了,我现在应该能升到NL2000或者NL5000级别了。可惜你没做到,1 c5 v! N) z% j( C1 r2 P( z9 B$ {
你觉得你智商挺高,有个本科学历,为啥那些退学的傻X能赢那么多钱而你不行?他们咋就比你打的好?
- R1 o* |+ T0 G% V0 K- s0 ^( E恩,有件事要告诉你,丫们就是比你打的好。
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时候)你都在展示你是什么样的牌手。如果你打的很好,但是每个月你都会OT然后把所有钱都投入到高额桌
9 W' h( Z! B7 ?  D% r里的话,那你就不是一个好牌手,尽管你这个月大部分时间都打的很好。
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如果你只在感觉好的时候打牌,那你就会错过很多的钱和好的牌局,你没办法给自己一个机会来提高自己的
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B和Cgame,相信我,如果需要你在感觉不好的时候打一整天牌,你真的会希望自己花过时间去提升BCgame
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这些我都经历过,我请了个心理教练后开始持续盈利并解决了OT问题。我仍然在持续改进,而且已经有很大  c4 X- [+ _: r5 F- @
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% N0 L7 v8 d: P, y; J- B/ {现在我专注于其他事情,我在努力抛开情绪来打牌,另外我决定不再去关心那些筹码和赚了多少钱,只要能
' c8 ?: z( X. G( n7 g够保障生活。我强迫自己不去看自己的出纳页面,甚至不知道这月我赢了还是输了。抛开钱之后你可以专注1 J( K" k' x8 a& p1 k2 X. V
于更重要的东西。
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所以当我在想这帖子写什么内容的时候,我想告诉大家一些我懂但貌似大部分人不懂的东西。不过想想我自
5 D5 j% S) A  Q" o己费了多大劲才达到这水平后发现这样写很装逼,还是算了吧。实际上抛开自私的一面我决定写一点自己想

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+ n" s/ j: x9 P5 p' d4 m你没你想的那么牛逼!& A/ q: }0 ]0 s% l( H( k; a1 A
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不过没关系,事实上如果你明白你有多烂的话你会变的更强大,如果你能明白你为什么这么烂的话就会变得
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2 w6 ]( p" |5 }8 ?2 g* ]这是第一步,学会如何提升水平和提升水平就是打牌的一切。我知道你考大学弄学位什么都挺轻松的,花几
4 a$ Y; M7 x% H# u. E1 g; s个星期时间就能搞定,大家都说你聪明,都想跟你一样学的这么快。
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这是你第一次面对一个需要付出真正努力才能成功的东西。别糊弄自己了……你不是天才,你需要认真的付& L5 F7 F# T/ T9 I1 l7 v
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我知道你正在看这帖子,你觉得这些话都是说给别人听的。扯淡,不管你信不信,我说的就是你。我就是你
: y/ _- n. j. [' s  E!我几年前就是你现在这熊样!是,你是盈利了,但是如果你能盈利更多呢?我知道你想过这个,不过你真
! D2 F9 [( p7 V的知道怎么才能盈利更多吗?你知道你在哪些方面需要提高吗?你真的知道你为什么会输吗?你知道你的最
* f4 l# K8 f( d3 `3 v大弱点吗?你有没有制定计划去完善这些?是否正在执行这个计划?你OT吗?知道为什么OT吗?- h# B# b* M' C+ W

4 E# ]1 ~, u! _1 x2 l1 m: u% f/ x2 `我知道并且也做了。
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我还知道你的其他事,你痛恨犯错,想到这个我就想笑,我希望你能知道为什么……你非常痛恨犯错,为了! k8 C3 O* [, }+ c* M" `
逃避,你把这些归结于倒霉。你是不是经常听人说自己倒霉?每个被bad beat的故事里是不是都充斥着EV图
& f1 Z- s* Z$ g, n8 T& y7 G,运气不好、抱怨、聊天窗口打嘴炮?想想你有几次见人说过“我犯了个错,怎么才能避免下次再犯?”
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扑克就是这么奇怪…如果我们打篮球的时候罚球不进,估计我们会找个打的好的人来教我们投篮技术,如果
- S' g6 i* ~9 C( `' I1 O' g( a哪个二货说自己罚球不进是因为运气不好那我们都会鄙视他的。( M- m# J2 o( z! X
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你知道的,从长远来讲技巧才能让你盈利。但是你输的时候会抱怨,你明知道打不出最好的水平还咬牙切齿3 w/ o( R/ K( f
的想要一把赢回来,本质上你就是在赌运气。你不明白输的牌才是最有价值的。" r; N9 c, P; {) c8 h- }
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如果你从开始就很轻松的一直在赢,那你还会在提高技术上花多少力气?如果你在CALL一个很大的底池或者9 }( I( M* t. X& J
抓一个大咋呼时幸运的成功了,我估计你不会想很多,就像你轻松的搞定学生时期一样。但是如果你一而再
7 r5 F5 [# x4 H9 M再而三的输,你就会开始问问题了。; H- I5 e, j* k5 |- S
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如果你持续努力和提高就不会失败。当你不停的做同一件傻事的时候就会失败,每次都一样的输直到你再也
# t/ o5 Z" b6 u1 A  W受不了了你就放弃了。错误是成长所必须的,而且错误是成长的好机会。如果能找出这些错误的话你就偷着
- U* i9 z- I  p! H  e- G8 C: V- H乐吧。因为每当你找出一个错误时,你就能改正它,这意味着更多的钱和自信。
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你有很长的路要走有很多东西要学。记住,把你所学的东西融合到打牌中,你不可能一夜之间学会所有东西. I2 T3 z- B' U+ G
,这是个持续积累的过程,最终你的盈利将稳定并持续增长。
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我TM超爱打牌。我知道我不是个牛逼牌手,没关系,德州扑克有众多级别可以挑战,我无法想象自己从扑克
3 `1 f: c% @  d% q中学会了多少、成长了多少。我牌手生涯里最牛逼的事就是抛开情绪并且认识到自己打的很烂。当你知道你
5 a4 l3 o* a  e6 w: A很烂的时候,你就可以学习和提高。如果你还在说“运气不好”之类的话,那就没TM什么能干的了。
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/ V/ ~) p0 _6 i9 f3 m接下来要讲的可能对于很多好牌手来说会有点怪异。当我下风期的时候我不会失去信心,说真的,发什么牌
9 z8 Y  g" F$ e" _都不会影响我的技术,这就是我的信心。如果我失去信心,这是我对牌局分析不够。试下这个,当下次你觉4 H5 b; g' v9 o
得某个session很垃圾的时候,去回顾每手牌,把每个bad beat和错误都写下来,找出你输的真正原因,别/ c. [. p; h3 I- Y7 P# A9 r
找其他借口。这听起来可能奇怪,但如果你能强迫自己这么做,你会感觉更好。8 t4 @4 a6 `* A3 M+ @

% d5 ^+ D/ Y9 X& T' ~能每天打牌是幸运的,我很庆幸能做职业牌手。我知道这帖子可能不会让你一下赢很多钱,但我也知道这帖
( `9 v+ Y8 s/ F2 v! w' `( K+ O子能帮别人一点一点改进直到最后获得成功。
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, Y# i* J0 V0 ~9 ^2 x: r谢谢捧场。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-12 01:23:21 | 只看该作者
下面是英文原贴,供英文好的朋友自己看,因为我觉得自己有些地方翻译的可能不太好- i0 q& r1 ]0 e$ m: B+ s) Q

4 j" f% ^, l0 f) w: Y9 j& }. SI have been thinking about what to write for a pooh-bah post for sometime. I don't think many of you know who I am, outside of this forum. I will start by saying I do not have a lot of new content as far as strategy goes. This is very TLDR, and it's probably full of grammar mistakes, or something... but I tried to make it easy to read.
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I've been around the forum for a long time now, and started playing poker before the UIEGA. I've played many different games in my goal to become great at poker, and it never really took off for me. I make consistent money now, but I don't play the super high stakes games, and I don't really think I am the best poster when it comes to strategy.
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5 w" e/ k% _1 s8 M% ]3 d) ?7 XHowever, I haven't had a formal job for many months now, and have no intentions of getting one anytime soon. So, I still feel obligated to give something back, or better yet, pay it forward.  t# B8 U2 Q7 U5 f* w' @# o

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% g! ^* [: _8 r) I- i3 WLooking back on the years I have spent on this game, and the numerous ups and downs in a poker career that has been less than stellar up to this point makes me wonder what kept me going. One of the hardest things I have ever done in my life was being a mediocre poker player. When you are marginally above break even, you still take the same swings that everyone else does, but you also don't really make any serious money doing it. You get to a point where you should realize you aren't very good, but your ego won't let you. So you end up being gratified and tortured by your results.
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8 ]1 z+ E- c  S- [One month you win 10K and you think "finally this game makes sense", then midway through the next month you get hit by negative variance in the cards and your play. Of course, at the time you won't admit that your play has everything to do with your results. And one night, you tilt off 40 buyins because you can't accept losing. Your ego just won't let you.
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Yeah, that's right 40 buyins over one 20hr session. I mean, no breaks, no food, not missing a single hand. It's not the first time either... or the last. You read numerous posts that if you lose that much in one session, you should quit, or you are horrible at poker if you take those kinds of downswings, but you can't quit. You think you have a borderline gambling problem, but you still made some money. And you are doing something that society generally feels as being pretty stupid, so you better ****ing succeed. ! J; b% \. N5 R$ v7 b) k& O3 A0 `
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3 A  c& M$ M; [; HYou think... if I just didn't tilt... I would have $XXXXXX.XX. I would be playing $10-20 or 25-50 by now. But you aren't... you are busto. You know you aren't stupid. You have an engineering degree, so why are these idiot dropouts making all this money and you aren't? How can they be better at a game like this? Well, I got news for you, they are better. . Q# n1 r8 G; J* Z, x# _( Z

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If you are tilting, or otherwise not playing your A game, that is all part of who you are as a poker player. It took me a long time to learn this. Every time you sit down at the table, you are demonstrating who you are as a poker player(even sometimes when you are away from the table). If you play amazingly well, then once a month you go on tilt and you take your entire roll and put it in a high stakes game, you have a major leak and that means you aren't an amazing player, despite playing amazing for most of the month.
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2 @" o7 ?; X1 y$ w$ {7 PMost players don't have leaks this severe, but I hope you get my point. You can't pick and choose how good you are based only on when you are playing well. You need to look at all your play and all your skills.0 y/ g' q! F3 }
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3 l6 l- k1 o1 {; gEven if you are only playing when you are feeling good; you are missing out on money and good games, and you aren't giving yourself a chance to improve your B and C game. And trust me, if you need to play one day and aren't feeling tip-top, you will really wish you spent some time working on those aspects of your game.
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4 ~+ h+ U4 A/ P# eI went through all of this... then I hired a mental coach and actually started winning constantly and figured out my tilt game. I am still working on it all, but it is coming along.
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% U4 n. S4 w3 e" S0 zNow I focus on other things. I am working on taking my ego out of the game. I also decided that I don't care about the stakes I play, or the money I make, as long as I have enough to live on. I stopped compulsively checking my cashier, and don't even know if I am up or down for the month. This act alone takes money out of the game, and you can focus on what really matters.
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So when thinking about what to write, I wanted to offer the community something that I have that most others don't seem to have. Then I realized that that is a pretty arrogant thing to even think about, considering how much I have struggled to get to where I am. ) f8 v, y4 ~0 {) Z* {
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But that is okay. In fact, it is amazingly powerful if you can truly understand just how much you suck. It's even more powerful if you can understand why you suck.
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This is the first step in learning to improve and improving is what this game is all about. I know things have always come easy for you in school and all the way through university. You never applied yourself for more than a few weeks and you did fine. People always told you how smart you are, and how they wish they could learn as quickly as you.% k0 d# W& e/ ]+ t. I; ^- w4 j' b

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This is the first time in your life that you are facing something that you really have to work at to succeed intellectually. And don't kid yourself... YES! You need to work! ALL THE TIME! Trust me, it's sooo much easier that way.
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If this game was easy, and you won all the time from the start, how much effort would you put into improving? If you make a big call, suckout, or sniff out a bluff and got lucky you probably won't think twice about it. It would be like school, and you would just coast through. But if you lose and lose and lose, you can start asking questions. 5 X% \# T3 I) c# h5 I: f9 `3 O$ S3 S

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Failure doesn't exist if you keep trying and keep improving. Failure happens when you keep doing the same damn thing, and keep getting the same stupid result until you can take no more and you give up. Mistakes are necessary and are the best opportunities for growth. Seek them out and be proud!! Because when you find one, you can fix it and that means more money and confidence.
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You have a long way to go and a lot to learn. But remember, every thing you learn compounds on itself in this game. You don't learn to win overnight, you pick up little things here and there, and eventually, you have built a game that wins and continues to grow.
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I ****ing love this game. I realize I am far from an amazing player, but it doesn't matter. This game challenges a person on so many levels and I can't think about how much I have grown and learned from this game outside of poker. Taking my ego out and realizing that I suck at poker has been one of the best things that ever happened for my game. When you know you suck, you can work and improve. If you are 'just running bad', there isn't a ****ing thing you can do. : i( W5 k  f) B, e  ]
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发表于 2012-6-12 01:38:41 | 只看该作者
感谢楼主好文分享

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-12 01:42:59 | 只看该作者
讲的东西都挺实际的,控制情绪,认清自己,找出错误并改正,抛开对钱的胜负心打出真实技术。都是自己碰到过的问题。

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发表于 2012-6-12 06:39:40 | 只看该作者
楼主辛苦了 。

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发表于 2012-6-12 07:59:37 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主,说的很好!!

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发表于 2012-6-12 08:58:09 | 只看该作者
翻译挺好,赞一个。

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发表于 2012-6-12 09:28:49 | 只看该作者
没钱,捧个人场。

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发表于 2012-6-12 09:38:17 | 只看该作者
不错哈  楼主辛苦了

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发表于 2012-6-12 10:46:27 | 只看该作者
楼主辛苦了,有空多翻译点这样的文章。

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发表于 2012-6-12 11:41:39 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主!

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论坛认证会员论坛本月在线王论坛佳丽

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发表于 2012-6-12 11:42:09 | 只看该作者
UIGEA指的是Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act,美国2006年出台的非法互联网DU强制法案

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-12 14:40:55 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼上科普,我翻的时候还以为UIGEA是个什么扑克室呢……

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论坛认证会员论坛本月在线王论坛佳丽

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发表于 2012-6-12 15:34:39 | 只看该作者
wyn7880 发表于 2012-6-12 14:40
! b" p0 C4 A! M6 s- X$ y" h谢谢楼上科普,我翻的时候还以为UIGEA是个什么扑克室呢……
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{:5_264:}一般人也不关注这个

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发表于 2012-6-15 23:32:09 | 只看该作者
不错 顶一个
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